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barack obama wants meaningful cuts in government? really? really? >> as much as republicans do. look, he got attacked all through the campaign for cutting medicare, right? so the people who claim that they want all these cuts, what do they do? they attack the president when he proposes cuts and they refuse to put anything specific on their proposal. what they sent back was just a number. >> bill: all right. okay. i got it. i got it. i got it. i'm just tired of this whole business. i think we should cut 10% across the board and then, you know, keep taxes the way they are and try to stimulate the economy by the private sector. plenty more ahead as the factor moves along this evening. >> i will tell diane. >> bill: charlie brown thrown under the bus by a church pastor in arkansas. how could this possibly happen in america? tell you what's going on. also, dennis miller having to deal with more of his money being taken away from him. d-man not happy about that and we hope you stay >> factor follow up segment tonight. again today some members of the obama administration met with members of con
, is president obama trying to destroy the republican party by using the budget prize? brit hume on that. >>> bernie goldberg on robert kennedy, jr. saying the right whing c c c c c c >> bill: there's a loss of posturing going on between the white house and the republican party over the budget. here's how one journalist put it. >> when you talk about the feeling at the white house, there's a palpable difference now compared to the summer of 2011. they're so much congressyer right now whic at the white houe than they were a year and a half ago. >> miss cooper apparently saying the president is unwilling to compromise because he's feeling his oats, to use a cliche. joining us is brit hume. do you see cockiness as factor in the debate? >> reporter: the president is playing hardball in the negotiations principally with house republicans because he feels like we've got an outcome coming that's bad all the way around but worse for republicans and they can less afford to have it occur than he cap can, and therefore he's got some leverage, i think in fact, he does. >> bill: is it just his nature
is senator marco rubio a republican from florida. first off, senator, why did your state go for obama. >> first, thank you, bill, for having me on. throughout the campaign i said florida would be very close and competitive state. let's start by admitting the on oous the president ran a very good grass roots operation. they invested a the love money into the infrastructure and technology. we should look and learn from that. technological high ground always wins from these things. >> bill: i'm perplexed because i thought florida would go for mitt romney based upon the economy primarily but romney spent a lot of time and money there. but what did the -- what message that the president brought to florida sueded for him? >> i'm not sure if it's the president's message. it's the message that we need to do a better job as a movement. not just the republican party. those who believe in limited government and preenterprise have to do a better and more consistent job of explaining to people why free enterprise is better for them. >> bill: elected you in florida. they elected governor scott. bot
polling place standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and worse. "the new york times" is the latest outlet to report on senior republican leaders who are ready to strike a deal. they want to push off negotiations until the debt ceiling vote next year.ç president obama won't have it. the president is attacking the only leverage republicans have left. the president spoke to a group of ceos today and said that he will not negotiate if debt ceiling is going to be used as a hostage. >> i have to just tell you, that is a bad strategy for america, it is a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. so i want to send a very clear message to p
obama and congressional republicans remain split on raising taxes on upper middle-class americans. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest now. susan, good morning to you. >> hi. good morning, terrell. both sides are talking publicly about what they want. the gop pushing back against that. but privately negotiations do continue. in an exclusive interview airing on abc's "20/20" this friday night, president obama says he's optimistic a deal will be reached, and he's confident the gop won't hold the middle-class taxes hostage to protect higher income americans. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, and think the key is to make sure the taxes go up on higher individuals like you and me, barbara. we can afford it. >> reporter: earlier on tuesday the president and house speaker john boehner shared a phone call to discuss the latest republican proposal. it comes after the obama administration lowered its request for new tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in over ten years to 1.4 trillion. but before the call boehner was critical of the president. >> right now the american peopl
barack obama. charles: some republicans have done a pretty good job with spending as well. before i let you go, i want to ask about the controversy of freedom works. it is a kind of thing that the mainstream media has been talking about. you let freedom works and a half. give us a little insight into what happened. >> first of all, largely unrelated to the tea party movement. i left there because i had serious concerns about the ethical and moral behavior of the senior leadership. i don't particularly want to discuss that at length. i think you will be resolved. i am consoled by my certain knowledge that time will heal all wounds and this will be all sorted out. but it has nothing to do with with john boehner's misguided sense, his colleagues, all of who were elected as republicans on the republican ticket. or the notion that people have been dreaming about since 2009, that the tea party will dry up. tea party activists are people who have a long standing commitment to ideals. charles: we appreciate your help. dick armey, thank you for coming on. kiersten powers joins us now. is that go
-down time in washington. president obama and the democrats, versus the house republicans and the so-called fiscal live. after weeks of negotiations, publicly, at least, talks have stalled, as the two sides have battled it out over tax hikes hs and entitlement reform. but what can be done about the nation's out-of-control spending. tim murphy is here now. chairman of the house oversight and investigations subcommittee for the energy and commerce committee. good to see you in person. welcome to new york. >> who do you think is going to blink? president obama says he wants the tax hikes to go up on the wealthy. >> we both better get together and come up with a solution. that's what the american family wants. all the other issues, we have to remember, it's what takes place, not at the 30,000 foot level, but at the kitchen table level. that's where the people are very concerned. will they have a job tomorrow? will their children have a job in the future? that means we have to deal with the deficit and the spending. we cannot continue to do this. the president's issue of unlimited power t
again at 4:00 this afternoon. >>> president barack obama will continue to battle republicans in a fiscal cliff negotiation. the president spoke at a detroit suburb with axle and engines. he continues to push his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> all congress needs to do is provide a law that will provide taxes on the $250,000 of everybody's income. >> they are trying to enact a right to work law to allow workers to opt out of paying union dues. >>> and in san jose, they are trying to keep social programs in place despite the looming cliff and -- and jeanine della vega joins us with more. >> reporter: these people are protesting cuts politicians want to make they are holding up signs and getting honks from drivers on the road. this group of about 30 people have set up tents in front of the office and they are pleased she supports not cutting back on medicare medicaid and social security. for example they are upset that some of the proposals are about raising eligibility rate for people on medicare. other politicians are using the fiscal cliff into intimidating congress in
of the day going to show him and the republicans to be weaker and to have less leverage which giving obama more leverage on two things to your question. one is the debt ceiling extension issue which is the point that the president has made. he's not going to allow the republicans to hold this economy hostage. and another round of debt ceiling negotiations. i think he has to hold firm on that. the other thing i think the president has to hold firm on is getting stimulus in this plan. to jared's point, republicans have been making all the arguments if you cut too much you're going to hurt the economy. that's what the democrats said during the stimulus debate which jared was a leader on in 2009. it's a point i think they're still relevant on. >> let me just amplify those excellent points. one thing i have heard and i'm very happy about this is that the white house and these negotiations has been holding firm on the stimulus piece of this package. >> the 50 billion additional. >> there's 50 billion on infrastructure, an extension of unemployment. something like a payroll tax check boost there.
they are charging distributors and retailers. >>> president obama and house speaker john boehner are keeping mum on their face-to-face negotiations at the white house sunday as they try to avoid the fiscal cliff. as the clock ticks down, it appears some republicans may be softening their stance. brian mooar with the latest on this story. >> reporter: president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors trying to break the tax and spending stalemate that threatens to take the country over the fiscal cliff in just over three weeks. meanwhile, one by one republicans are bowing to the president's demand that taxes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. >> we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate in the democrats' hands. >> since we agree with democrats, 98% of the american people and 80% of the bush tax cuts, to me i would get that off the table so they don't worry about it. >> reporter: democrats insist ta
obama. john sununu is addition you know, he's not speaking for the republican party. ted nugent, he's very entertaining and downright racist in some of the things he says. >> if you like that kind of thing. >> i guarantee you, they're not going to be standing at the speaker's podium in 2016. the party moving beyond those characters. >> i hope you're right. mitt romney, whom you've just written about is seclusion in retail therapy. the man who told us i love cars, american automobiles who bought himself a foreign car audi, built in slovakia, owned byç a germany company. the capital of slovakia is quite aways away from detroit. is this is finally the real romney, the one he promised to give us and now we're seeing? >> but he took his audi to costco and loaded up with cheap merchandise. >> sorry sdmroop. >> so he is a man of the people driving his luxury suv to the discount chain. >> come o dana, he spends the whole campaign saying, i love america, implying the president doesn't. and the first thing he does is buy himself a german automobile. >> well, first he moved out to this wealt
executives in washington, president obama said republicans' aid to examine the reality that tax rates will rise for the wealthiest americans. >> we have seen some movement in the last several days with some republicans. there has been a recognition that, maybe, they can accept some rate increases as long as is combined with a serious impediment reform and additional spending cuts. and if we can get the leadership on the republican side to take that kramer, to acknowledge that reality, then the numbers are actually not that far apart. another way of putting this is, we could probably solve this in about one week. it is not that tough. >> new details have been revealed in the retail giant kermit factory where 120 dacre workers died in a fire last month. "the new york times" is reporting that wal-mart played a key role in blocking the improvement of safety features at the bangladeshi factory. one representative helped quash a proposal that would help to improve safety investments, calling them not financially feasible. documents found at the fire scene also show five of the factory's 14
several months. >> reporter: we are now hearing the staffs for president obama and republican house speaker john boehner are talking now again after a week. whether they're making significant progress, we hope to get more details today. >> tracie, thank you. >>> breaking news out of syria. here's melissa mollet at the live desk. >> good morning. syrian rebels claiming damascus international a civilian target. they're warning civilians not to approach it. they're also warning the syrian government is planning to use chemical weapons. and regime forces are firing rockets around the capital. 40,000 people have been killed in the country's civil war. at the live desk, melissa mollet, news 4. >>> today world war ii veterans nationwide will commemorate the 70th anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor. pearl harbor survivors will attend a wreath laying ceremony. in our area, flags will be flown at half staff today on all local, state, and federal buildings. in virginia, governor bob mcdonnell will attend a ceremony and lay a wreath at the virginia war memorial in richmond. governor mcdon
the democratic process. the republican numbers went down much more than barack obama's did last year. i think they have to be careful about what they are doing here. >> i think the reason simon doesn't like it is because it gives the republicans leverage to force the president to deal with the debt. the president has as much chance of succeeding as you have of getting john bolton to cry on your show. megyn: i think i can do it. a challenge? >> i bet you can. in the last 27 years, every significant debt reduction bill that passed starting with graham rosen has been linked to a debt limit increase. this is the only tool in washington that forces both sides to do something about the debt and spendersing. so republicans aren't going to give this up because it's the only tool they have in this political situation to stop the president from going forward. and the reality is last year speaker boehner set an important resident. it's called the boehner rule. one dollar in spending increase for one dollar for debt limit increase. you balance the budge net 10 years without raising taxes. the republicans
it out. if republicans end up getting it, it's something the obama administration told john boehner they were willing to trade away if republicans end up getting it, that will feel like a big win for them. enough to unlock the tax deal. i'm not saying the final negotiation here will be easy. one thing that's a tough sticking point in negotiations. we began tonight which the white house wants to get rid of forever. there's not been a lot of republican movement on the forever deal. i'm not saying the final negotiation here will be easy. one thing that's a tough sticking point in negotiations. we began tonight which the white house wants to get rid of forever. there's not been a lot of republican movement on the forever deal. i'm not saying they are not going to get to a deal before the deadline, but don't be fooled by the posturing. there is a sailboat. it's coming clearer. joining us is the former budget director for the obama administration. vice chairman at citigroup, a veteran of these negotiations, thank you for being here on a friday night. >> good to be with you. >> peter, you
. the skicliff is tax hikes cominn january 1st. it could send us back into recession. president obama and congressional republicans blocking a deal to avoid an economic catastrophe. marco rubio addressing the public says it does nothing to solve the long-term problem of a ballooning national debt. >> tax increases will not solve our debt only economic growth will help control the debt. house republicans have a democratic bill that already passed the senate. the republican alternative will not work. >> the senate has already done their part. now we are waiting for republicans in the house to do the same thing. but so far they have put forward an unbalanced plan that lowers the rates for the wealthiest americans. >> the tax hikes on americans. they say voters made it clear when he was elected. >> he is a democrat. former florida governor carlie fritz making it official after two years as an independent. he's seen as a candidate former challenger republican rick scott in 2014. we have a message for christ. bring it on. he was elected in 2006 but ran for senator after losing the republica
have announce of compassion this christmas season, save it for john boehner and the house republicans. president obama is treating them as if he has them over a barrel headed if for fiscal cliff. and he does. this is not because mr. obama won re-election. after all, he won 51%. needed the greatest voter mobilization operation in history to do it. his leverage now stems from the law, which ends the bush tax rates on january 1, imposing new higher tax rate and a steep set of spending cuths that fall with special force on military. nobody wants these things but republicans, the low tax and strong defense party, want them least of all. not only that. but polls indicate that if these things come to pass, the public by large margin will blame the g.o.p. speaker boehner is trying to head this off bargaining with the president to keep tax rates they are now and raising revenue and closing tax loophole. mr. boehner want the president to agree to serious reform of the entitlement benefit. mr. obama says he wants to higher tax re-knew and higher tax rates on the rich to boot. but he has offered
west lost his bid for reelection. what does he think about republicans negotiating with president obama on the fiscal cliff? like a lot of other things, it all comes down to socialism. here's what he told radio host mark levin. >> i think this whole thing about having negotiations with president obama is silly. president obama is a marxist, socialist, rigid ied lo log. and for whatever reason he believes he had some self conceico self-conceived mandate to go out and further destroy and ruin our economy. >> if you have any lingers nostalgia, that should kill it. patrick murphy somehow cheated to win the race, supposedly. >> the most important thing everyone has to understand is my voice is not going to be lost. we've gotten a lot of opportunities, a lot of offers and we're going to make sure that we have continue to have that platform. i'm not going away just because of a congressional race where he seems to have had to cheat to beat me. >> following the show, the west campaign spent about $18 million for the election, more than quadruple, four times, what his opponent spent and then bea
, republicans and democrats remain far from a deal. sunday, small sign of hope. mr. obama and john boehner meet together. a source said, i would be a little enjournlged. not greatly, but a little. republicans may be ready to compromise on tax hikes for the rich. >> there's a growing group of folks looking at this and saying, we don't have a lot of cards in regards to the tax issue. >> reporter: some are open to more tax revenues. the two parties seem to be closer on entitlement, with one leading democrats saying he's open to means testing for medicare. >> i do believe there should be means testing. those of us with higher income and retirement should may more. >> reporter: if washington can't reach an agreement, every american will see a tax hike. >> there's going to be a lot of suffering among a lot of people who deserve otherwise. >> reporter: there's 22 days before the cliff. some lawmakers believe a deal is needed this week if they hope to reach agreement by the end of the year. >> tahman bradley in washington. thank you. >>> john mcafee says he wants to return to the u.s. and live quote wh
of the storm. >> 4:49 right now. 29 days before we reach the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats are locked in a war of words. negotiators are meeting behind closed doors to hash out a deal. president obama tried to put more pressure on republicans on thursday. he visited a family in virginia to highlight the impact of government spending cuts on the middle class. >> because democrats and republicans are not coming together to solve this problem -- >> republicans say they will support raising revenue by closing loopholes. >> therightward legislation. -- has pushed forward a right to work legislation. union activists shouted during the debate. several were arrested. the legislation prevents unions and from collecting fees from non-union workers. michigan's governor said he will sign the bill. >> 4:51 right now. up next, a new role for >> 4:53. let's take a look at weather. clacks good morning. we have a damp start to some areas. not much in the district, to the southeast. this is all very light. a little bit of paint showing at the mason dixon line. a little bit of snow baby -- maybe mixing
counsel as the only legit rat representative of the syrian >>> more republicans are willing to go along with president obama. they want major cuts in entitlement programs in return. tahman bradley joins us from washington with more. >> reporter: sunny and john, good morning. with time running out, president obama and speaker boehner are negotiating directly. congress needs a bill soon. president obama is back on the road today, peddling his plan to avoid the so called fis kalg cliff. in washington, republicans and democrats remain far from a deal. sunday, small sign of hope. mr. obama and john boehner meet together. a source said, i would be a little enjournlged. not greatly, but a little. republicans may be ready to compromise on tax hikes for the rich. >> there's a growing group of folks looking at this and saying, we don't have a lot of cards in regards to the tax issue. >> reporter: some are open to more tax revenues. the two parties seem to be closer on entitlement, with one leading democrats saying he's open to means testing for medicare. >> i do believe there should be means test
president obama and congressional republicans in the effort to avoid the fiscal cliff in january. president obama repeated his pledge he's open to new ideas, but is holding firm on his call for higher taxes on top income earners, something missing from the g.o.p. plan. with just three weeks left, the two sides are still at odds with their opening offers. th time ticking away to reach a deal before tax cuts expire and spending cuts hit, president obama today said he's still optimistic a deal will be done and he's willing to compromise, but negotiations just aren't there yet. >> it's going to require what i talked about in the campaign, which is a balanced, responsible approach to deficit reduction that can help give businesses certainty and make sure the country grows. >> tom: the president rejected the proposal republicans presented him yesterday. it would cut the debt by $2.2 trillion over ten years, but would not raise taxes on america's highest earners, the biggest sticking point. the two sides seem to be allowing themselves room to bargain. the president said today he'd be open to lower
that president obama and congress will want done, so there's a lot of room and space and time, four long years for negotiations. sometimes the democrats will have more leverage and sometimes the republicans will have more leverage. >> right. people yell it's not fair, it's not fair, everybody does it. >> it's not four years. we will have a debt ceiling conversation in a few months. you have to remember that this is rapid fire. as soon as we get passed the fiscal cliff, president obama will have to meet again with boehner to discuss the debt ceiling. >>> steven baldwin was arrested and when he was released he wanted to come on this show and explain himself. that's next. how do you get fr. to here? at university of phoenix we're moving career planning forward so you can start figuring that out sooner. ln fact, by thinking about where want your education to lead, while you're still in school, you might find the best route... leads somewhere you weren't even looking. let's get to work. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why
and hairy problems facing the country that president obama and congress will want done, that congress will want done, so there's a lot of room and space and time, four long years of negotiations. sometimes the democrats will have more leverage and sometimes the republicans will have more leverage. >> there you go. right. people yell it's not fair, it's not fair, everybody does it. >> it's not even four years. we will have a debt ceiling conversation in a few months. >> right, right. >> you have to remember that this is rapid fire. as soon as we get passed the fiscal cliff, president obama will have to meet again with boehner to discuss the debt ceiling. >> thank you, ana, thank you, lz. >>> steven baldwin was arrested and when he was released he wanted to come on this show and explain himself. that's next. >>> stephen baldwin was arrested this week in new york. the district attorney says he owes more than $350,000 for not paying his state taxes for three years. he pleaded not guilty. baldwin said he paid $100,000 already to new york state. earlier he told me he knew all this was comin
to actually solve our problems? yes. >> president obama wants republicans to sign off on the wealthy tax hike before any negotiations about spending cuts begin. >>> a cloud of political uncertainty hanging over venezuela. president hugo chavez announced that his cancer has return and he's traveling to cuba for surgery for a third time. this time, the 58-year-old leader, named the vice president as his choice to replace him in case something were to happen to happen. >>> a man who shot three people to death on an indian reservation in california has been killed. police near fresno were involved in the shootout with the man who reportedly opened fire earlier on several people, three of whom died. his two young daughters were wounded, and police chased the suspect and said he shot at them, too. no word yet on what prompted his rampage. >>> the national menorah in front of the white house, illuminated tonight, marking the eight-day start of the jewish holiday hanukkah. ♪ of course, no hanukkah celebration would be complete without a spinning draddel. this was performed by the u.s. navy band. >>
an election. you saw it on the other side, republicans complained with some justification that obama rather than focusing on the economy went ahead with obama care and he paid for that. i think you're going to see the same sort of backlash here where voters have been saying very clearly they want action on the economy. now it becomes sort of an anti--union effort that has very little to do in the short term with the economy. so maybe, you know, they may be able to get their right to work thing through there but there will be the inevitable backlash. >> it is interesting that the congressional delegation, that there are a lot of members who are there now talking to the governor, jackie. what do you think? what's going on in that room right now? >> i think it also varies state to state i'd like to add. something that worked in wisconsin won't necessarily work in ohio. we saw that during some of the scott walker drama that went down. ohio, unions won. wisconsin, unions lost. michigan, another union heavy state, we could see something else entirely. that said the president going there and most
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talks. the obama administration and opposition republicans remain at odds over how to avert the falling off the fiscal cliff. let's take a look at currency markets. the dollar is also little change against the yen as u.s. budget talks continue. dollar/yen is in the upper 81 levels, 81.88 to 90. the euro, that is higher against the yen, 107.27 to 30 at the moment. worries are reseeding over eurozone debts. let's take a look at other markets in the apple open. kospi is trading flat on the day, 1,934. looking at australia, the benchmark index is trading higher by 1/10 of a percent, 4,508. modest moves so far this morning in the asia pacific. >>> japan and india launched a new framework to provide bilateral credit in u.s. dollars. the aim is to ease the impact of possible turmoil in the global financial markets on asia. the two countries worked out the details on tuesday. japan's prime minister and his indian counterpart had signed the currency agreement a year ago. under the framework both countries will be able to exchange up to $15 billion over the next three years. the two countries had
. >>> president obama remains firm that the wealthy must pay more. a few republicans are joining him. pipa visits sister kate. >>> the $8 million man and nasa's high res look at you on our planet earth. good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. this week president obama puts syrian leader bahsar al assad on notice about the use of chemical weapons. and now we know why. pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons sites like this one. while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly sarin gas. the development s
so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few left. today there's a joint economic committee hearing. they're going to hear from a top economist not only about the jobs numbers coming out tomorrow but also about what can be done to avoid this issue at the end of the year. >> tracie potts for us in washington. thank you. >>> last night on the ed show, steny hoyer explains why he thinks the debt ceiling vote should be taken off the table. >> the debt ceiling is a phone y vote, frankly. and from time to time democrats have made it an item that they demagogue down and the republicans have demagogued on it, as well. the debt limit is a recognition o
't opened yet but has oscar buzz and is sloweded in controversy. republicans say the obama administration gave directors unprecedented and possibly inappropriate access to classified information. the white house denies this. here's barbara starr. >> you don't think she's a little young for the hard stuff? >> washington says she's a killer. >> reporter: it's a hollywood spy thriller with as much as oscar buzz as it has controversy. "zero dark 30," the story hunt for osama bin laden from the oscar winning powerhouse team of katherine bigelow and mark bowe recreates how it all happened, from the female cia analyst who finally figured out where he was hiding to the navy s.e.a.l.s who killed him. >> there are two narratives about the location of osama bin laden. >> reporter: the controversy? the obama administration has faced accusations it gave undeserved access to the film makers. in real life, everyone involved in the hunt for bin laden remains sworn to secrecy. but the film makers say they got firsthand accounts. they just won't say exactly how that happened. >> i think as a reporter you w
. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican house, which had twice voted for a real budget -- remember, the president's budget he claims he has a mandate for was put up before the house and the democrats all voted against it. in the senate, the democrats didn't want to have anything to do with it. it's a little hard to argue, he had a mandate for something the rest of his party ran away from. >> well -- >> did not run ads on those issues. >> and, of course, it was a bit more complicated than that. but to your point about the exit polls, it's true, most people said that they didn't want tax increases to solve the deficit. what they said -- the majority, was they wanted both balanced. they wanted cuts and tax increases. which is what both john boehner and the president -- in very stridently different ways have put forward. >> well, one of the challenges you have is if you ask the question, would you be willing to tax the rich, some people say yes. second question, if they tax the rich in a deal, do you think they'll also hit the middle class. yes. if they raise taxes,
and we actually don't know when it was or what was said. and we do know who. president obama and republican house speaker john boehner sitting down for a private meeting. we can tell you the meeting apparently the latest effort to keep us all from going over what some analysts predict would be another recession, triggeri triggering events the fiscal cliff. is tax hikes and deep spending cuts january 1st if law makes can't come up with an alternative. no word if any progress was made. both men issuing statements about the talks, saying the lines of communication remain open. and police in london are owning up to authorities in awes as as the investigation deepens into an of radio station's hoax call made to the hospital. and made by these two. and they managed to dupe a nurse into giving out personal, private information and that nurse, by the way, may have committed suicide. so far police have not exactly linked her death to the prank and now for the time being, we're hearing from members of her family. >> and i'll really miss her a lot. she was a good sister-in-law, i can't
of most americans. president obama understands that and republicans don't. >> is that because in your polling day, i always thought that people favored spending reduction and favored smaller government. this may be a mistake that the gop has not emphasized spending cuts. >> they certainly do. most people -- two out of three people want to see a deal that includes both tax hikes and spending cuts. they want to see more spending cuts, but they don't expect spending cuts to come out of this no matter what happens. in fact, the one thing that most people in the middle class believe is that regardless of whether we go over the fiscal cliff or whether a deal is reached to avert that, middle class taxes are going up, and so is spending. so there's a lot of cynicism in this process. >> real quick -- >> that's why the president has the edge. >> bottom line, the republicans are poised to take a fall? is that what your numbers show you? >> they are poised to take a hit on this right now. longer term, tim pact will weigh on the obama administration if the economy doesn't recover. >> all right. ma
that the republicans seem to have a balanced plan. actually president obama is putting -- has been putting forward a balanced plan, spending and revenue increases for a long time. he's also done something very smart, which is put the republican tons defensive, unlike the beginning in the first term with the health care bill where he did not go around the country continuing to sell the idea as negotiations were going on. this time he has been doing that and he has put the republicans in a terrible spot. she's basically said, look, here are my revenue proposals. that's what i was all about. you guys were all about spending. tell me what you want to cut. go ahead. and they've, of course, had a little trouble with that. >> right. go ahead, make my day. john, "the washington post" today is reporting that investors are preparing to go off the cliff, shifting around assets. wealthy survival skills 101, so to speak. ceo says there must be a deal now. are republicans feeling this pressure from the super rich in the country? >> there's a real problem in that there's a real fear that what the republicans are
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more than 11,000 employees. president obama warned republicans not to try linking the fiscal cliff negotiations to an increase in the federal debt ceiling early next year. timothy geithner says the administration absolutely it prepared to let the economy go over the fiscal cliff unless the republicans accept higher tax rates on the healthy. and the southern philippines struggled to recover from a typhoon that killed nearly 300 people. and what does a day in the life of public buses, trains and subways look like? the answer is part of our science roundup online. hari sreenivasan has the details. >> sreenivasan: the image resembles a lite-bright time lapse. find those pictures and our conversation with a software developer who set out to visualize the 24-hour cycle of urban public transit systems. that's on our homepage. an international telecommunications conference in dubai aims to set new rules for the internet. what's at stake? we take a look in the rundown. and on making sense, economics correspondent paul solman argues both sides of the capital gains tax debate. all that and mo
is with the president. >> republicans are totally over the barrel. >> did you say over? >> they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> nothing is over until we decide it is! >> we didn't elect them to raise rate. >> not me! >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> i'm not going to take this. >> when are you going to fight? >> let's do it! >> how is that winning? that isn't winning. >> i don't think republicans will win. >> south carolina senator jim demint -- >> jim demint says he is resigning. >> his surprise announcement to step down. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> are you kidding me? >> he doesn't have a law to his name. >> he has been a singular failure as a political strategist. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> the disarray of the republican party. >> there is no progress. >> they don't know what they stand for. >> no progress. >> they don't know what to do. >> no progress. >> they have some real soul-searching to do. >> today the united states supreme court -- >> the supreme court used this afternoon -- >> said they would take up the issue of same-sex marriage. >>
obama and john boehner, the two sides appear to be no closer to a compromise. are republicans working on the scenes on a plan b? wall street journal columnist, dan henninger and kim strassel. you have bean working the phones, is there something going on between speaker boehner and the president? >> no, i think that they are nowhere and it's because the president is refusing to budge at all on the top toks ratestopx rates and we'll go off the cliff if the republicans don't acreed to that demand. so we're still at a stand still. >> paul: kim, why is the president so insistent on increasing tax rates? boehner has already put on the table a comparable amount of money to be gained from putting a cap on deductions, about 800 billion over ten years, so such a-- >> look, paul, two reasons. first is ideological. his partisans, his liberal base believe this is somehow a symbol of winning the tax fight and you can only do that by raising the rates on the wealthy in the country and they're insistent on that. the other thing the president is interested in, he wants a double deal and wants to raise
's capital despite the chill between democrats and republicans. >> president obama dug in his heels insisting on tax increase or higher earners. >> and they both agree he that the other's proposals are ridiculous. >> just a sampling of the coverage this week as the media keep a watch on what's done or not to avert the fiscal cliff. >> jim shall the overriding theme in the media seems to be that president obama won the election and therefore should do what he wants and the media seems to forget na john boehner and everyone else won their elections as well and they're a co-equal branch of government. >> i think the media loves the story of president obama's comeback and the new york time describes him as disciplined and unyielding and focused on this and i think there are other media stories as well. the second media story or narrative. which one wants to grow by virtue of the tax increases and get new perspective from the mainstream media and the third is mcconnell and boehner back and forth. and the media want to praise him if they raise taxes and. the sort of grover norquist and he's a funny
his hands of all of his failures and then arrogantly blame the republican party. to make matters worse, we're learning today that president obama is a far cry away from waging this battle by his lonesome. as usual, his friends in the main stream media have been willing to continue to do whatever he wants and that means to say whatever it takes to try and fool you, the american people, into thinking that raising taxes is your only option. the extent to which so-called journalists have been spreading his propaganda is now in a brand new study. according to this report, the chief offender of that left wing bias is none other than abc news. yes, it turns out that in the three weeks following the election the net woul network cd obama's favorite issue which is raising taxes 17 times more than spending cuts, and all told, 10 minutes and 18 seconds were devoted to taxes. compared to a whopping 35 seconds of air time on house spending cuts might be a useful tool in actually tackling our debt. not surprisingly, that trend was-mile-an-hou mirrored all across the major networks. here with reactio
on the run down, is president obama trying to destroy the republican party by using the budget prize? brit hume on that. >>> bernie goldberg on robert kennedy, jr. saying the right whing controlwing controls the n america. we're coming right back. and we can save you 10% on ground shipping over the ups store. look this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. >> bill: there's a loss of posturing going on between the white house and the republican party over the budget. here's how one journalist put it. >> when you talk about the feeling at the white house, there's a palpable difference now compared to the summer of 2011. they're so much congressyer right now whic at the white houe than they were a year and a half ago. >> miss cooper apparently saying the president is unwilling to compromise because he's feeling his oats, to use a cliche. joining us is brit hume. do you se
,000 to $108,000 bracket taxes go up $3,500 a year. mr. obama and the republican speaker of the house talked this over today and here's major garrett at the white house. major? >> reporter: scott, there is a code of silence the white house and speaker boehner's try to apply to these phone conversations, releasing as few details as possible to protect the underlying negotiations. nevertheless, cbs news has learned the following: the speaker and the president spoke before treasury secretary geithner's comments about going over the cliff. the conversation was described as brief, meaning shorter than the 28-minute conversation speaker boehner and the president had last week. also those familiar with the conversation tell me-- or do not used words like "curt," "frank" and "direct" meaning it was probably more gentle. also i'm told scott this is no longer a time for check-in phone calls between these two leaders. everything now is substantive about the underlying merit of what treasury secretary geithner. republicans believe this can be done through tax loopholes not raising rates on the wealthies
when he explained the arithmetic of what obama inherited. >> in tampa the republican argument against the president's re-election was pretty simple, pretty snappy. it went something like this. we left him a total mess. he hadn't cleaned it up fast enough. so fire him and put us back in. when president barack obama took office, the economy was in free fall. it had just shrunk nine full percent of gdp. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. are we doing better than that today? the answer to that is yes. >> david, i don't know you at all but i have to tell you, who would you rather have make your case to st. peter than this guy, bill clinton? this guy can sell. what did you think of the impact of his convention address. >> part of that was set up by the fact -- i thought it was an unfortunate statement by republicans, were you better off than you were four years ago? you couldn't have picked a more unfortunate contrast. ultimately by setting it up as a contrast to four years ago created an opportunity for clinton to deliver that speech. again, i want to go back for the opportunity here tha
's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle class to pay more tax to save 2% of the wealthiest americans paying a little bit more. and that's a very bad position for the republicans to find themselves in, isn't it? >> it certainly is. it's a very bad position for them to find themselves in. the fact of the matter, it isn't true. raising taxes on the wealthiest americans will not only solve the problems. it doesn't even address the core problems. the core problems, $16 trillion in national debt comes from government overspending. and we have sluggish growth. raising the taxes on anybody, whether it's the poor or the middle class or the wealthiest americans, doesn't solve that problem. and that's my point of frustration. let's figure out what the key problems are and solve those, instead of having the rhetoric and say we need more revenue. i gave the analogy, of giving a kid an allowance,
a counter offer from president obama since the republican plan was delivered on monday. >> reports indicate the president adopted a strategy to slow walk our economy to the edge othe fiscal cliff. -- edge of the fiscal cliff. >> vice president joe biden said a deal could be done in 15 minutes. he made the comments during a lunch with people the white house described as middle class. >> couple hundred bay area senior citizens made noise today about the fiscal cliff. [ music playing ] >> they held a flash mob in front of the federal building in downtown san francisco. they are rallying for social security, medicare and medicare. they support the president's plan. >>> another winner. what we know about the latest person to claim a huge power ball jackpot. >> the weather is looking nice. the warmest day of the weekend and when shower chances return in the five-day forecast. >> parents complain their daughters are being bullied. we will tell you what is happening at a middle school. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't h
opinion supports his position, and public opinion will support obama over the republicans if we go over the cliff, he will go over the cliff rather than take a bad deal. and making sure that tax rates on wealthiest go up is a big part of that deal. >> he ran on half of tax increases proposing, he ran on a planned approach, i'm sorry this is politics, and he should admit it. lou: another thing that bears admission that this president saying it was not about economics, to have that right to work law go into effect in michigan, he said it was about politics, i tried to demonstrate how it is both and about power, right-to-work looks to be a very serious challenge to democratic power, with 24 right-to-work states. >> absolutely. a big nasda challenge. where does the money come from if you don't have unions giving it to you. >> indiana, gained 14,000 manufacturing jobs, this is politics, it also about getting jobs back, otherwise -- -- lou: we'll have to leave it there thank you very much. >> thank
blocked the committee from withdrawing his nomination. >> now to washington where president obama is warning republicans not to use the fiscal cliff as a borrowing limit. both sides seem to be digging in their heels with no move to avoid the fiscal cliff. fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a stand still since monday when republicans proposed raising revenue by closing tax loopholes not by raising rates own the wealthy as the president has demanded. >> we're not insisting on rates out of spite but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> we can't keep borrowing mown and raising taxes and expect the problem to go away. >> with no solution in sight the white house budget is now ordering the pentagon and other an an jencies to finalize their plan to avoid massive spending cuts. >> secretary of state clinton says nato's decision missiles to turkey sends a clear message that tour ski is backed by its allies. the big concern remains an increasely desperate assad regime will turn to chemical weapons as rebel fighting rages on. the u.s. and its partners are looki
republicans will reach an agreement but 43% say they won't. meantime, president obama is giving a stern warning to republicans who may be trying to use the debt ceiling as leverage. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> we should say that the president and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone yesterday. that was the first time in a week. no one is saying what the conversation was about. shortly after that call treasury secretary tim geithner went on cnbc and said the white house is ready to go off the cliff. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in. >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. it's only 2%. >> i want to bring in "usa today" bureau chief and welcome to both of you. where ar
. president obama remains insistent that republicans yields to his ultimatum that he be allowed to raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year. republicans for their part insist that the president gets seris about cutting spending in order to reduce trillion dollar deficits and a national debt that is now mind-boggling league not -- monotonous. house minority leader disagrees vehemently with the speaker on how to reduce deficits and debt. today she offered a paradoxical statement on fiscal policy that would make both casey stiegel and yogi berra proud. the nation now just 24 day away from $600 billion of spending cuts and tax increases that will automatically kicked in. and pelosi has some wise words for washington. please listen terror. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming. the goose is getting fat. in many homes across america it is very, very lean times. you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. lou: that's right. pesi sys we cannot get our way to deficit reduction. listen to the top democrat in the house of representatives, the former speake
. the think there are enough but not republicans to force president obama to cave? >> there are a number of republicans who have stepped up and said, we have to be serious about revenue. we believe in the middle class tax cuts. let's start where we agree. that is really important to have that conversation. what you are saying is that republicans and democrats set not been talking. on almost every big decision we have made in the last two years, democrats have had to step up and have 100 or more people to reach common ground. it is when we were together and when we are not heeding our heels in -- digging our heels in -- >> using there are enough republicans that will agree not to dig their heels in? >> we really would like him to really mean it. it would be helpful right now to provide the certainty to the economy. the pressure has to be on the republicans to not use the debt ceiling as a tool to give more spending cuts. we have to decide on the budget. what is the right amount of spending cuts, which we believe we already have. the debt ceiling cannot be used as a tool and a bargaining c
of public opinion. weird 3-d republicans cannot get wobbll. >> disses obama's ultimatum why can't they say you decide? >> >> then the republicans will fight another day on the spending cuts. the president knows said the deal is retroactive so this can go away with the flick of a pen. lou: a few weeks to go? i confuse christmas and the fiscal cliff. [laughter] >> i think the president wins no matter what. lou: you could have saved me..3 [laughter] if the president does what you what he will blame the republicans. >> what we wanted him to do is a deal. >> but he also wins. lou: take the boehner play and or the obama plan as we enter stand it it doesn't make a difference over the next decade where we were with the national debt. it is about 20.$5 trillion. it is beyond ignorance to talk about spending cuts when they alk about reducing the rate of spending. >> will not be partisan. [laughter] democrats have shown no interest to cut entitlements >> 40% of the better budget going to entitlements and democrats not putting this on the table and not being serious. lou: to repeat it neither boehner
.c., the standoff continues. house speaker john boehner says he's still waiting for president obama to make his next counteroffer to the republican plan he rejected. >> i'm going need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday, but republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. >> whether the talks happen on the phone or in person, here on capitol hill or at the white house, there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes, something that does not appear likely any time soon. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> treasury secretary timothy geithner said the white house is absolutely willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. while a handful of republicans seems willing to concede that point, the party seemed unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position, i think the day after the campaign, that said we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increas
of republicans who -- president obama reluctantly said he would be for changing the cost of living for social security and raising the requirement age very slowly for medicare and those things are going to be harder to get now for democrats because the left has mobilizeded, liberal groups are really acting the way they -- but i think the democrats recognize, that entitlement spending has goes to be curbed. >> they don't want to change medicare and medicaid spending or private advertise social security. if you're not going to do those kinds of things and you're going to make the 'rarithmetic work, you do that, you can get to numbers that work in the context of a budget. >> let me tell you where republicans are with their thinking. i think republicans are saying, look, the president's probably going to get his way on the tax increase on the ledge. so say he gets that, they raises $70 billion, $80 bill i don't think a year. the republicans saying, maybe we'll just give the president that. they'll say, okay, mr. president, what are you going to do with your second act? you've got to come forward
and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want party leaders to compromise anymore than they think they already have. even though the republican plan offers up $800 billion in new taxes without upping tax rates at all tea party leaders say higher taxes shouldn't be in any form because it is not what republicans stand for. south carolina senator jim demint went so far as to call on supporters of his senate conservative fund to call senate republicans and ask them to oppose what he's calling the boehner tax hike. the looming question for re
-on-one negotiation with president obama the rank and file republicans rejected boehner's deal. it's hard to see how boehner will get a different outcome this time around. eric cantor looking right over his shoulder. you could make the argument that cantor is the big player who is not in the room. because if boehner does a deal with the president and goes back and tries to get the republicans to vote for it in the house and cantor says no, where are we? the president, calm, cool and collected and remembering what this election is all about. get your cell phones out. tonight's question. the president, calm, cool and collected and remembering what this election is all about. get your cell phones out. tonight's question. will republicans punish e speaker boehner for trying to work with the president? text a for yes, b to no to 622639. we'll bring the results later on in the show. joining me tonight is congressman emanuel cleaver from missouri. great to have you with us. >> good to be with you. >> i'd like to talk about the congressional black caucus if i could. they have been very, very strong about do
's no deal done. congressional republicans will get 53% of the blame game. obama just 27%. now, that's an interesting development there. i looked at that all afternoon, and your view of that. >> i think it's absolutely right, number one. number two, the republicans are creating a symbol that is not good for their brand, that they're going to let the tax codes go up for the middle class to protect the wealthy. the president has framed this very well. he's talked about balance. he's talked about the 2% having to do a little bit more. and on every one of those things the public is overwhelmingly with him. one-third of mitt romney's voters believed the top 2% need to pay a little more. >> conceptually you're obviously right. the polling is right. here is my difference. the conditions in which the world lives. right now we're talking about a possible fiscal cliff. we're not off the cliff. >> right. >> if it's january 2nd or 3rd and the stock market is going down by a couple thousand points around the world. the japanese markets, european countries, countries in europe which are precarious
it for him, 49% of republicans say that a.c.o.r.n. stole the election. that's why obama won. half the republicans say democrats are engaged in voter fraud. ron, i'm far more fascinated by the fact that all these republicans believe that a.c.o.r.n. -- how can you put your signature to that? how can somebody say to that openly on the telephone, well, i think a.c.o.r.n. did it? >> because they hear it on fox news. that's why. fox news beats the drum about this kind of stuff, and that's all these people listen to. they live in this bubble. >> i think they misheard it and they thought a unicorn stole the election. >> i mean a.c.o.r.n. they don't have a nickel to rub against another nickel, and they're running the country. thank you, dana and ron. i think we caught the spirit of this nonsense. >>> up next, one of the most popular guests we've ever had on "hardball," barney frank joins us as he prepares to leave the congress after more than -- boy, barney's been around a long time. i thought he was the new guy. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] jill and h
numbers, you end up with barack obama, two-term president. republicans tried to cross reality and reality won. the demographics of the country are changing. we're facing another set of realities. the federal government has taken in taxes that equals 18% of the overall economy. it's 17.8% to be exact. that's become something of a magic number in politics. you tell orrin hatch loves the 18%. if we keep all the bush tax cuts, we stick at that magic number. that means "taxes would still be high enough compared to recent history." across the political spectrum, consider warren buffett and higher taxes for the rich. he wrote "our government's goal should be to bring in 18.5% revenue. he doesn't say. those are levels attained over extended periods in the past. permit me a decent from the or kl of omaha. the average of our past revenue is not sufficient to sustain our future. in fact, it wasn't even enough to support our past. only three times in the past 50 years has the 18% been enough to balance the budget. the only recent balancing came during the clinton era when growth was strong. from 19.5
. no date has been set for his discharge. >>> president obama is warning republicans not to use the fiscal cliff to try to win concessions on raising the nation's borrowing limit. nbc's danielle lee is live on capitol hill this afternoon where a perfect storm over spending and borrowing and taxes is shaping up here at the end of the year. danielle? >> reporter: pat, that's a good way to describe it. both sides are digging in their heels, and with no move to avoid the fiscal cliff, or to raise the debt ceiling which is currently at $16.4 trillion, now there's new concern about what could happen to our credit rating in the new year. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limits. president obama called it a dangerous lesson when he talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may refuse to raise the debt ceiling and risk defaulting on the country's loan. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strateg
. republicans in michigan, despite losing to state by 3 million votes to president obama have launched an extreme attack on core democratic policies. they are now pushing a far right agenda to go take down union rights and women's rights. we've seen this in wisconsin and ohio and virginia. now, it's in michigan. president obama went to an au auto-plan where he ripped the gop plan and crippled the state's labor unions. >> what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your rights to bargain for better wages. [ applause ] >> you know, these so called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics, they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. you only have to look to michigan where workers were instrumental in reviving the auto industry to see how unions have helped build not just the stronger middle class, but a stronger america. >> the president is right. it's not about economics. it is about politics. the state's republican governor, rick snyder, says he'll sign the right to work bill into law. even tho
are in a political cliff. >> republican ares are over the barrel are. >> obama is not letting up. >> this is a solvable problem. >> they are waving a white flag. >> in the 20 second sound byte world in which we live, that is the take away. >> they will be pushing that and it will go to the senate and we will lose. >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> we lost the election, sean. this is a solvable problem. >> he is not budging. >> obama is not letting up. >> there is no hard deal on the table yet. >> this is a dangerous game. >> they don't believe republicans are going over the cliff. >> let's go over the cliff. >> are they going to raise taxes on everyone? >> they will be push ping that and we'll go to the senate and we'll loose. ♪ ♪ >> there are 25 shopping days for a deal between congressional republicans and president obama before we go flying off the fiscal curb. today, from a kitchen table in northern virginia. >> this is a solvable problem. the senate at already passed a bill that would make sure that middle class taxes do not go up next year. to be clear, i'm not goi
congressional republicans and president obama before we go flying off the fiscal curb. today, from a kitchen table in northern virginia. >> this is a solvable problem. the senate at already passed a bill that would make sure that middle class taxes do not go up next year. to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate for going up for folks at the top two percent. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done for families like this one. >> that is the home of the santana family. house speaker john boehner could not find a table where he was welcome so he made no comment at the table. it has become kick ed test. >> are are you saying that for pr purposes they should give give in? >> yes, i am. >> you are saying to obama, we don't have a revenue problem, an. we lost the election, sean. >> yes, america, it has come to this. ann is trying to get sean to face reality. let's watch a bit more of the intervention. >> if they are going to raise taxes and buy the argument and co opt his language. >> no, they are not going to allow taxes to be raised on 98
with this obama white house. lou: and are you and i in agreement that the republicans are not in nearly sufficiently strong position, not with the lack of talent, there are some questions about that, but because of the lack f power of the leaders in the house and the role of the house in this negotiation. >> i am not prepared to ay that. i go up to the capitol every week and meet with the republican leaders and listen to them as they talked very openly about what their views are and what they're trying to get done. and i can tell you that they are a lot stronger than they have been presented by the conservative media. the interesting thing about the speaker is to make you look carefully at his proposals, he is never implying that he would increase tax rates. and yet the mentioned the breitbart comments. and that is really not accurate. lou: you know, as a former -- as a distinguished chairman of the house ways and means committee i think you and i would agree, revenue will be taxed, whether it is eliminating loopholes, whether it is eliminating special treatment, or whether it is rais
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